Some realistic blackberry with a heavier dark berry candy edge.
Used in 16 recipes at an average of 1.991%.
Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 12 wrap 24g 3.5mm SS316 @.32 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.
Testing: Vape Train Blackberry, 1%, 4% and 8%, 60/40 VG/PG base, Steeped 28 days.
Flavor Description: Some realistic blackberry with a heavier dark berry candy edge.
I am getting some distinct blackberry here. There is a realistic dark blackberry tartness. Feels more like a true blackberry tartness rather than the flatter, sweeter himalayan blackberry. It's not really center-stage in the flavor, but the blackberry that I can taste is fairly accurate. Light floral edge, but on the tame side compared to some of the other widely available blackberries (cough Flavourart cough)
If I didn't know what I was vaping, I would have guessed boysenberry though. Specifically, this tastes a lot like a fresh, realistic blackberry flavor mixed with PUR Boysenberry Preserves. There's a candy sweetness and stickiness that reminds me a lot of that swedish fish-ish flavor that FA Blackcurrant can pick up. Seems to be bullying that more delicate realistic blackberry a bit.
Overall, that sweetness and texture does pull the flavor more into the candy category. It almost has a fresh blue raspberry thing going on (if that isn't the dumbest sentence to ever appear on this sub.)
Off-Flavors: Too sweet and sticky for a fresh blackberry. Brighter boysenberry or candy blackcurrant thing going on. Light floral edge.
Throat Hit: Light. Bit of a bite but nothing major for a berry.
Percentage testing: At 1% this feels floral and thin. Just getting a bare hint of a dark berry flavor.
At 4% I'm already getting more of that boysenberry candy flavor than realistic blackberry. Moderate body and sweetness, florals feel pretty restrained.
At 8% that floral note has picked up a bit and doesn't quite seem to be cohering with that candy type base. Heavier body and a good deal of sweetness. Realistic blackberry is getting a bit lost.
Vape Train suggests mixing with this at 3-5% and 5-9% as a standalone. Just based on these tests, I'd be on the low end of that. I'd probably be using this around 3% as an accent and 6% as a primary note.
Uses & Pairings: While this isn't "bad" or unpleasant at all, it doesn't squarely fit into a blackberry profile for me.
I'd accentuate the candy berry thing going on here instead of going hard blackberry. Should work pretty well in brighter, vibrant candy type applications. I'd play it off an aggressive raspberry like INW. You could also further accentuate that sticky redness with some CAP 27 Fish or FA Blackcurrant.
Mixing this with a darker blackberry flavor like TPA Blackberry should add a bit of realism back if you wanted to attempt this in a bakery or custard type profile.
Second Opinions: Not seeing anything out there.
Here is the product page from Vape Train. Their description: "a sweet and tart juicy berry that fits into most recipes. This ejuice flavour pairs well with Apple, Boysenberry, Lemon, Lime, Mango, Melon, Nectarine, Peach, Pear, Raspberry, Strawberry and Tangerine flavours making it very versatile for the seasoned mixer." So basically every fruit?
A friend of mine recently popped round to see me over the Christmas holidays and he’d just been vapeshop and purchased this new liquid from “Just Jam”. He absolutely loved it and insisted I tried it, I was pleasantly surprised with this one I’ve gotta say!! It’s extremely jammy,bright and has a lovely biscuit/shortbread on the tale end of the exhale. Like all commercial ejuice’s it was fucking LOADED with sweetener! I would say there’s atleast 1.5% cap super sweet in the original and I just couldn’t bring myself to add that much so I opt’d for 0.75% and feel this is absolutely perfect for this recipe.
Since cracking this little beauty pretty much all my customers are hooked on it and literally can’t get enough, my friend who initially let me try the original has insisted my version is ALOT better and I definitely concur,even more so the fact that my version doesn’t cost £25 a fucking bottle!!! 🤬Please give this a mix and be so kind to leave your feedback and a rating so other mixers can decide whether to try it or not.
WHAT I USED & WHY...
Building my jam
My new go to pairing of strawberries to create an authentic (JAM) is VT Strawberry jam & INW Shisha strawberry,these 2 concentrates work wonderful together and portray that sticky,Jam like quality I was looking for with this recipe. When it comes to Blackberry concentrates I’ve tried them all!! The one I always go back to due to it’s none offensive,authentic like qualities is VT Blackberry, this works wonders in this recipe at adding some darker fruit notes without completely taking over and forcing the strawberries into submission! I use 0.5% FLV Jammy berry because I’ve found when building jams,this works great at filling in any gaps and adding a decent amount of “jammy ness” even when used at a small %. This concentrate does ALOT of heavy lifting!💯
Building my cookie/shortbread
This part of the recipe took the most work... After 8 different cookie variations all of which tasting pretty dam good,I decided to go about it a little different to the norm I’m used to. I wanted the cookie to be as close to the original as possible as I thoroughly enjoyed this part of the recipe and truth be told it’s the best best cookie/shortbread I’ve Vaped to date! JF Cookie/FA Graham Crust/CAP Sugar Cookie build a VERY authentic shortbread biscuit,it’s clean,crunchy and has great depth (more so than the original) and I will definitely be using this combo again in the future when I decide to play around with this kinda profile! It really is a winner. 🙂 Finally I use CAP Vanilla custard at just 1.25% to do 2 things....
1.) - To add some butter notes to our shortbread cookie.
2.)- Add even more mouthfeel to the overall vape and smooth out any rough edges. At small percentages CAP Vanilla custard v1 really shines when used for this kinda application.
Last but not least, CAP Super Sweet is used @ 0.75% and this is vital for creating the authentic sweetness that comes with a jam! Without it this recipe just doesn’t work so if your not one for using sweetener then this recipe isn’t for you I’m afraid...
I’m really proud of this one I would say it’s possibly one of my best recipes. S&V APPROVED Happy mixing guys and gals 💙
This is the best berry combo I have ever tasted, being that I love milkshakes and smoothies I had to make one. This is the Berry Trinity, the Holy Grail of a berry combo for me. If you got the flavors, mix this up and give me your thoughts. The milkshake base and shisha vanilla really thicken up the ice cream. The cream cheese icing adds to the mix a perfect milkshake. I am using Hussar Legacy on a Drone 250C, 55watts @ 0.15ohm
I liked VTA Blackberry so good, I thought I run the Gambit on it. The VTA Shisha Blackcurrant is a little cleaner than the rhubarb. The Milkshake Base really thickens up the ice cream into a well rounded vape. Sweetner was added in also, makes the Blackberry shine. Any kind of sweetner would be fine, I just like FLV better.
Blackberry Pudding, with a lil rhubarb to give it some tartness.
This needs a least a 4 day steep. I get the best Blackberry I have encountered, and this is Blackberry in your face, but not overdone.
I usually don't use sweetner, but it is needed in this, It makes that Blackberry really pop, plus vta is sometimes on the dry side.
I also vape at around 35-55 watts. I bumped it up to 70 watts and got a whole better vape.
Using citadel at 14 ohms @ 70 watts with Topside Squonker.
A delicious blackberry Croissant Breakfast dish.
The Croissant VT Croissant and VT Biscuit Base
Berry base: VT Blackberry, VT Shisha Blackcurrant, and VT Warm Custard
Drizzle frosting VT Vanilla Buttercream Frosting